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Monday, October 17, 2005

Dangerous knowledge?

Ray Kurzweil (entrepreneur and comp sci "celebrity") and Bill Joy (founder of Sun Microsystems) have written an op-ed piece in the New York Times in which they critize the recent release of the sequence of the 1918 H1N1 influenza virus, which accompanied the paper announcing that the sequencing - or rather, the assembly of the sequence - was finished, in Science.

Bill n' Ray decry the decision to deposit the sequence in Genbank; they say that it's worse than putting up precise instructions on how to build an atomic bomb, since you don't need plutonium or enriched uranium to unleash biological terrors. Continuing on that theme, they also suggest that we need a new Manhattan Project dedicated to developing technologies to help counter any future bioterrorist threat.

The first thing that struck me about this is: why did the New York Times publish an op-ed about genomics written by two computer scientists? (yeah, Ray Kurzweil dabbles in systems biology now, but if you check out that Edge of Computation article from a while back you'll notice that he's more of a futurist commentator than a proper researcher).

The second thing was: isn't this a fairly standard kneejerk reaction? This information could plausibly be dangerous - let's ban it! It's an old story. If it weren't for the heightened awareness (well, fear) brought about by the new avian flu scares then they'd be dismissed as conservative crackpots. There's a tradeoff between potential risk and potential benefit here - a tradeoff that was carefully considered before the sequence was published. Realistically, it's more likely that sharing the opportunity to study the virus will help prevent an impending disaster than causing a new one.

Thirdly: how do they propose to control the knowledge represented by the H1N1 sequence? They suggest getting "suitable security assurances" but is that feasible and would it be enough of a deterrent? If a motivated terrorist really wanted to get hold of the flu sequence then surely it wouldn't be that difficult to obtain it through underhand means (lying, bribing, hacking, whatever). What's a "suitable security assurance", anyway? Would you have to be vetted by the FBI? If the lab is in Pakistan, would that pose a problem?

Finally: how does all the stuff about keeping back the influenze sequence fit with the "new Manhattan Project" idea? I'm guessing that they just mean a massive funding boost rather than the US embarking on a huge new bioweapons research program, but isn't it a rather unfortunate comparison? For it to be worth the investment, what would the return have to be? Some sort of targetted ultra vaccine for any possible threat? How do you protect against pathogens that don't even exist yet?

We know that avian flu will mutate into a form capable of spreading from human to human, we just don't know how yet. Any concentrated research that goes into examing what makes some flu strains particular virulent - particularly if the relevant outbreaks have parallels to our current situation - gets the thumbs up from me. That research wouldn't be nearly so concentrated were the relevant information restricted to a chosen few.

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At October 18, 2005 8:03 PM, Blogger Pedro Beltrão said...

About possible future threats

Instead of trying to make the super vaccine for a future unpredictable threat I think more effort should be dedicated to concerted reaction to a one such possible threat. How easy would it be to get the world's scientists to work together to react to an immediate threat ? How would we assign tasks to the different institutes/universities in the most efficient manner. I am sure that there is not even a catalog of proficiencies somewhere like in the United Nations or even in EU or USA that could be tapped in such an event.

 
At October 19, 2005 12:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

About the article ..

I feel the comments concerning the biothreat through the virus genome publication were overly expressed by the author's in the New York Times.

 
At October 20, 2005 1:41 AM, Anonymous Neil said...

Whenever articles like this appear in the media, I wish a few more scientists
would stand up and say "this is an irrational, ill conceived knee jerk response
and I'm going to tell you why". Let's examine the arguments against releasing
this information in a critical scientific way.

Their argument goes:

1. There are bad people in the world who want to hurt other people.
2. They will use any tools at their disposal to do so.
3. Knowing the sequence of a deadly pathogen provides a tool.
4. Therefore the bad people will use it if available.
5. And they will not if it isn't.

Point (1). Yes, there are. Always have been, always will be.
Point (2). Yes they will. So far, so concerning.
Points (3) and (4). Not necessarily. So you know the sequence of e.g.
avian flu virus. Now you need access to a modern, sophisticated molecular
biology laboratory in which you can synthesise the DNA. You also need
large-scale culture facilities to make lots of virus and finally, an effective
method to distribute the virus to a large population of people. The latter
problem is the one that has held back so-called 'germ warfare' thus far (as the
US military knows through plenty of experimentation on its own citizens).

Alternatively, you can recruit some impressionable young men and convince them
to blow themselves up in a crowd. Which as we've seen, is somewhat easier.

Point (5). OK - so the bad guys can't use flu virus if the sequence is
unavailable. So will that course of action lessen their threat? Of course
not because from point (4): (a) the practicalities of bioterrorism make it
unlikely to be used in the first place and (b) they'll just use something else
instead - bombs, guns, knives, their bare hands. On the other hand, the
benefits to medical science that come from knowledge of pathogen sequences are
potentially immense and so outweigh the miniscule threat from the bad guys that
any sane, rational person can see the benefits of public availability.

Occasionally I wish that more scientists were in politically-influential
positions...but I guess most scientists view politics as the absolute
antithesis of the science world view.

 

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